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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jun 7, 2012 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: r.i.p. bob welch

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/07/showbiz/bob-welch-dead/index.html

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jun 7, 2012 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

Well that just sucks - was bouncing between Grateful Dead and Bluegrass Junction on XM satellite this morning and landed on Sentimental Lady.

Anyone else get the sense that musicians have a target on them lately?

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 7, 2012 5:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

I get the sense that we're all getting older, and these celebrity deaths mean more to us now because it's our heroes and/or contemporaries who are kickin' the bucket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjQG0aGozMI

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 7, 2012 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

It just sucks indeed. Prayers go out to his wife Wendy and the rest of his family.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jun 8, 2012 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: You Don't Know Jack!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132623/

I’ve stated before that “death is an interesting subject” and having extensive experience with several close friends and family passing, death and dying really doesn’t phase me anymore as long as the suffering is kept to a minimum, though the people left behind will always give in to their selfish emotions.

In terms of Welch, it’s a horrible method of leaving this life and the decision that this was his only option is an unfortunate one. He apparently had spinal surgery three months ago and doctors told him he would not get better and he did not want his wife to have to care for an invalid.

I don’t know if they discussed his exit strategy, but had he stayed with the Mac he certainly would’ve been able to afford all of his health insurance and health care costs, perhaps even medicare and hospice.

Jack Kevorkian was way ahead of his time and I believe that in twenty years time - Death with Dignity - will be a legal and common practice for folks suffering near life ending illnesses. Not sure if Welch qualifies, but none the less, a compelling film on the life story of a true medical pioneer and a convincing performance delivered by Al Pacino, a recommended view.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbeep* Date: Jun 7, 2012 8:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

It royally sucks. I loved his stuff on Future Games.
In fact, it's the only Fleetwood Mac album I own.

http://tinyurl.com/83y4ctl

This post was modified by beep* on 2012-06-08 03:03:09

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 8, 2012 1:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

How horrible. What a tragic decision he made. I'm so sorry for his friends and family.

I have to say I honestly didn't remember much about him, not having been a big Fleetwood Mac fan, so I looked him up in Wikipedia, and after some sad stuff about Fleetwood Mac and their infighting, spotted this:

>Jerry Garcia had used his influence to get 12 members of the Grateful Dead inducted into the Hall, including some band mates whose contributions were considered marginal.

Really? I didn't know that. "Used his influence" is a weird phrase (are there Rock Hall-level musicians who somehow DON'T have influence to use?), but it seems that Fleetwood Mac pressured the rock hall not to include Welch, whereas Jerry "used his influence" to be decent. For all his problems (and I'm sure he could be quite the jerk in the inevitable junkie style), it always does seem that his basic instincts were very much on the side of kindness and honoring others and just plain being a gentleman. I like that.

I did wonder, though, why Barlow isn't included. Hunter is; I thought they were/are both generally seen as band members.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 8, 2012 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

> I did wonder, though, why Barlow isn't included. Hunter is

Interesting. No slight to Barlow - I love some of his songs - but I never saw him as being integral to the band in the same way Hunter was. Just for sheer quantity, he wrote far fewer songs. Also, I don't believe that he hung out as much. Hunter was with them, on the road and in the studio, for years at a time, and lived with them in the late-60's when communal housing was the thing. Jerry certainly considered him a full fledged member of the band

Bios on dead. net refer to Hunter as a member, and Barlow as a "former lyricist"
http://www.dead.net/band/robert-hunter
http://www.dead.net/band/john-perry-barlow

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 8, 2012 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

Jerry (Hall of Fame Boss) Garcia, twisting some arms, making some phone calls, taking care of business.
Jerry Garcia, friend to musicians getting screwed out of the HoF. Yours for payment in kind.

> I did wonder, though, why Barlow isn't included. Hunter is

That's interesting. Maybe he didn't want it? I can't imagine Bobby not fighting for his man. Maybe backstage Barlow and Hunter went at it with pens (and/or laptops). I recently watched a little bit of GD's induction speech. I couldn't get pass B.K. (Amazing he is) because he was deep, deep in his cups. His voice was falsetto.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jun 8, 2012 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: r.i.p. bob welch

He had spinal surgery a couple months ago and was told he wouldn't get better. He didn't want to live as an invalid.